Thomas was born on Cartmel Fell, Lancashire in about 1796. He married Mary Wilson, (born in Troutbeck in 1795) on 8 Dec 1832 in Windermere. In 1841 Thomas, Mary and four children, Thomas, Edward, George and Isabella were living at High Wray, Claife (Near Hawkshead). With them were George and Ann Garnet and Mary Wilson, probably a niece. Thomas was an agricultural labourer. By 1851 Thomas and Mary the children had left home. Interestingly the next entry on the census form is for widow, Hannah Black and her children, Louise’s maternal ancestor. Is this significant or a coincidence?
In 1861 their three year-old grandson, John (Louise’s father) was living with them. In 1871 Thomas, now a widower, was living with his brother-in-law, George Garnett and was now a waller. In 1881 it appears that Thomas, a widower and labourer was living with his daughter, Isabella Scott and her Scott children at 19, Cross St, Applethwaite, Windermere. He was recorded asd being born in Crosthwaite, down the hill from Cartmel Fell but in the next county. There is a death record for 82 year-old Thomas Holme at High Wray on 29 Apr 1883 (Kendal 10b: 479).
Thomas was born on 30 Jan 1834 in Hawkshead and baptised on 29th Jun. In 1841 he lived with his parents and siblings at High Wray. By 1851 he was a tailor’s assistant and lodging with Daniel Wilkinson, a road labourer at Neville Hall Yard, Ulverston. In 1861 Thomas was a carter living with Nathan Newby at The Lodge, Belle Grange, Wray. He was married Ann surname unknown and had a son, George.
Ann died in 1865 and he married Isabella Robinson (born in Penrith in Jun 1844) in 1866 in Ulverston (Oct-Dec 8e: 1105). In 1871 Thomas, Isabella and children George (Ann’s son), Mary, Isabella and baby Marsh were living at Beckside, Claife with mother-in-law, Mary Robinson, 47, unmarried and a charwoman born in Penrith. Isabella must have been illegitimate. In 1881 Thomas, Isabella and children, Mary & 7 year-old Tom were living in Elterwater; Thomas was a carter. In 1891, still in Elterwater, there was another son, Robert. In 1901 Thomas was now a quarry worker.
Thomas died aged 75 in Kendal in 1909 (Jul-Sep 10b: 383). In 2011 widowed Isabella lived at Mill Row, Elterwater with Mary, Tom and boarder, Martha Fairclough aged 31. She’d had 7 children but 3 had died. I cannot find a record of her death.
George was son to Thomas’s first wife, Ann. He was born in about 1861 in High Wray, Claife and lived with his parents at The Lodge, Bell Grange, Wray.
Mary, daughter of Thomas and Isabella was born about 1868 in Hawkshead . She was present with her parents from 1871 to 1911. She was variously described as a cartridge maker or packer in a gunpowder factory. There was such a factory in Elterwater. She appears as Mary Eleanor Fairclough, wife of Arthur Fairclough but I can find no record of a marriage. Was Martha Fairclough present boarding with them in 1911 a sister to Arthur?
Mark, son of Thomas and Isabella was born in 1870 in Claife, Hawkshead and baptised in Hawkshead on 13 Nov. He was present with his parents in 1871. Mark died, aged 7 in 1877 (Ulverston Oct-Dec 8e: 671).
Tom, son of Thomas and Isabella was born in 1874 in Claife. He was present with his parents in 1881- 1911 census and was cooper’s apprentice in 1891 and quarry labourer in 1911. Tom died, on 16th Oct 1918 at Mill Row, Elterwater. Probate of £111 4s 3d was granted to his sister, Mary Eleanor Fairclough.
Robert, son of Thomas and Isabella was born on 8 Jun 1882 in Langdale (Kendal 10b: 692). He was present with his parents in 1891- 1901 census when he was a labourer in a powder factory. Robert married Mary Greenhow in Jul 1910 in Kendal. In 1911 Robert, Mary and 3 month-old son John were living at 14, Lingmoor View, Langdale. He was a gunpowder labourer. John aged 34 and a private in 6th Batt. The Border Regiment (18780) died of his wounds on 27 Sep 1916. He is buried at Puchevillers Cemetery in Picardie, France.
John was born in Jan 1911 in Langdale (Kendal 10b: 736). He was present with his parents in 1911.
Edward, twin of Thomas, was born on 30 Jan 1834 in Hawkshead and baptised on 29th Jun. In 1841 he lived with his parents and siblings at High Wray. In 1851 he was an apprentice plasterer to Ferdinand Taylor, innkeeper and plasterer in Hawkshead. In 1861 he was a plasterer and boarded at Undermillbeck, Bowness with William, Blaylock and family. Robert married Mary Metcalf(e) in Ulverston in 1869.
In 1871 Edward, now a huntsman was living as a boarder, without his wife, with John Harrison at Plum Green, Finsthwaite, Lancs. In 1881 he and Mary were living with their niece Isabel Holmes at Eggerslack Terrace, East Broughton Ulverston; Mary was a boarding house keeper. They remained there in 1891. Edward was now described as a plasterer and chimney sweep. In 1901 Edward and Mary were living at 2, Berridale Terrace, Grange with 3 lodgers and a groom. Edward died, aged 73 in Sep 1908 (Ulverston Jul-Sep 8e: 466).
George, was born in about 1835 in High wray and baptised on 7th Jun in Hawkshead. In 1841 he lived with his parents and siblings at High Wray. In 1851 he was farm servant to George Gamith, farmer of 62 acres at Sunny brow, Hawkshead. In 1861 he was a farm servant to William Forrest farmer 155 acres, at Beyond Field, Claife. He was still there in 1881and William Forrest’s niece, Ann Black aged 40 was staying there also as housekeeper. NB the Holmes and Black link- Annie nee Forrest was married to John Black (1843-1874). In 1891 George, still single was farm servant at Wray Castle living at Low Wray Farm. He was a domestic gardener at Wray Castle in 1901. In 1911 George was a gardener’s labourer pensioner living with his sister, Isabella Scott, née Holme, Louise’s grandmother at 19, Cross Street, Windermere.
Isabella was born on 3rd Aug 1836 in Hawkshead and baptised on 25th Dec in Hawkshead. In 1841 she lived with her parents and siblings at High Wray. In 1851 she was a house servant to Robert Kirkby, auctioneer and farmer at Calthouse, Claife, Hawkshead. In 1857 she gave birth to an illegitimate son, John Holme, father of Louise. She married William Scott in Dec 1860 (Ulverston Oct-Dec 8e: 1038). Her illegitimate son, John would appear to have been offloaded onto her parents and she and William went to have another eight children, alive in 1911.
In 1861 William, an agricultural labourer and Isabella were with William’s brother, Thomas and wife at Applethwaite, Troutbeck. Their first son, Thomas was 2 months old. In 1871 William, a coal labourer, Isabella and children, Thomas, Alice, Mary, Joseph, and William were living at Cross Street, Applethwaite, Windermere with 2 lodgers. They were there in 1881 with a further 3 sons, George, Robert and James and a boarder, Thomas Holme born in Crosthwaite, Isabella’s father.
In 1891 at Cross Street William was now a coal merchant and with them were three sons and a lodger. Next door was their son, Joseph and family. In 1911 at Cross Street Isabella, now a widow, was recorded as having 11 children of whom 4 had died. With her were brother, George, 2 sons, 2 granddaughters and a boarder- a bit of a squeeze in the 5 rooms! Isabella died in Jun 1929 (Kendal 10b: 796).
John, was born in High Wray, Lancashire in 1858. He was baptised on 3 January 1858 in Hawkshead. It would appear that he was the illegitimate son of Isabella Holme (without the ‘s’). From hereon any records are given as written, with or without the ‘s’
In 1861 John was living with his grandfather Thomas and Mary Holme at High Wray, Claife then in Lancashire. Thomas and Mary were both 65 and he was an agricultural labourer who was born in Cartmel Fell and Mary in Troutbeck.
We cannot trace John in 1871 but he was not with his mother. Isabella had married William Scott when John was two in December. They went on to have a further 10 children, four of whom had died by the 1911 census. We can perhaps surmise that John was with his grandparents rather than Isabella, as an illegitimate son may not have been welcomed by his stepfather. Who knows? Is his mother the Isabella from whom Amanda Poole is descended?
John married Mary Black in 1881 (registered in Kendal Jan-Mar (10b: 932). John was a carter and living in Ambleside. There is no name or profession given for his father, so we can probably safely assume he was illegitimate. By now the ‘s’ had appeared in the surname. As John had signed his wedding certificate with an ‘x’, he was probably illiterate which might account for the variability in the ‘s’. It may have crept in without John recognising or correcting it.
It looks as if Mary may have been pregnant as at the 1881 census in April John, a carter, and Mary were living at Mill Row, Westmorland with a 3 month old daughter, Mary I or S?, born in Ambleside. Mary Holmes was born about February 1881 (Jan-Mar 10b: 709), but sadly died in 1883 (Kendal Jan-Mar, 10b: 474).
In 1891 John & Mary were living at Edinboro, Ambleside, with daughter, Emma A aged 5 and five boarders.
By 1901 the family with children, Louise M, aged 9, Jennie M, aged 6, and Georgina E, aged 4 together with 2 boarders were living at Lingmoor View Langdale, where Georgina was born. John was a wood carter and waggoner.
In 1911 the family were at 12, Beconsfield Terrace, Windermere. John was now a builder’s labourer. They had been married for 30 years and had 7 children of whom 3 had died (Mary Talbot and 2 others obviously born and died between censuses. Only Georgina was still at home.
John died in March 1934 at the age of 76 (Kendal 10b: 932)
NB There would appear to be no descendants of the children of John and Mary HolmeS. The five named daughters did not appear to have married and the other 2 died in childhood before 1911.
Mary was born abt February 1881 in Ambleside (Jan-Mar 10b: 709) and died 1883 (Kendal Jan-Mar 10b: 474)
Emma was born in 1885 in Ambleside (Kendal Oct-Dec 10b: 694). We cannot find in 1901 or 1911. She died unmarried in May 1957 (Westmorland north June 1B: 510) recorded as ‘Holme’ and is buried in Winster.
Jennie was born in 1894 in Ambleside (Kendal Jul-Sep 10b: 683). Jennie was living with her family in 1901 and in 1911, at the age of 16, was a servant in the house of woollen manufacturer, Walter Rostron Disley at Fearns cottage, New Church road, Stacksteads, Lancashire. Jennie was present at the death of her sister at Ninevah, Winster in 1920 and wrote to the Imperial War museum with a photograph of Louise in QMAAAC uniform. The photo has yet to be traced. Jennie died in July 1963 (Westmorland North Sept 1b: 473 recorded as Jeannie M Holme.)
Georgina was born in 1897 in Langdale (Kendal Apr-Jun 10b: 736). In 1901 she is with her family in Langdale and in 1911 was with her parents in Windermere. She died apparently unmarried in December 1962 (Westmorland North 1b: 570)
Thomas eldest child of Isabella nee Holmes and William Scott, was born in Hawkshead, Lancashire in about Feb 1861. He was baptised on 24th Feb 1858 in Hawkshead. In 1861 he was with his parents at Appletreethwaite, Troutbeck, the home of his Uncle Thomas Scott and family.
In 1871 William and Isabella and their children had moved to 19, Cross Street, Applethwaite, where they remained through to the 1911 census. In 1881 Thomas had no occupation recorded and was described as ‘lame from birth’. In 1891 he was described as a bookkeeperand a clerk in 1901. By 1911 Thomas was a coal dealer. Thomas died on 19 Dec 1914 aged 54 (Kendal 10b: 935) He left £617 15s. 6d.
Alice was born in Windermere in 1862 (Kendal Oct-Dec 10b: 501). She was baptised on 23rd Nov in Troutbeck. In 1871 William and Isabella and their children had moved to 19, Cross Street, Applethwaite. In 1881 Alice was a general domestic servant at the Elleray Hotel Windermere. In 1891 she was a domestic servant to John Howson and family in Natland, Westmorland. Alice married Robert Caley in Dec 1891 in Windermere (Kendal Oct-Dec 10b: 1138). In 1901 Alice, Robert, an agricultural labourer, daughter, Mary and niece, Margaret, were living at Finsthwaite road, Windermere. In 1911 they were living at 16, Cross Street (near her parents) with Mary and son, William. She had had three children but one had died before 1911. Alice died in Sep 1917 (Kendal 10b: 698) aged 54.
Mary was born Mar 1893 in Natland, Kendal (Jan-Mar 10b: 731). In 1891 she was with her parents and cousin in Finsthwaite Road, Windermere and in 1911 at 16 Cross Street with her parents and brother. She was a day servant in a confectionary business. Lodging with the family was Violet Cooper, a baker in the confectionary business.
Mary married Sydney Turner in Dec 1919 in Windermere (Kendal 10b: 1697). They had a son, Cyril born in 1921 and twin girls in 1924. Mary died in Jun 1994 (Kendal 10b: 837) shortly after the twins were born.
Cyril was born in 1921 (Kendal Apr-Jun 10b: 1525).
Twin girls were born in 1924 (Kendal Jan-Mar 10b: 1311); they were unnamed on the register and their mother died shortly afterwards.
William was born in 1902 in Applethwaite, Windermere (Kendal Apr-Jun 10b: 792). In 1911 at 16 Cross Street with his parents and sister.
Mary was born in Windermere in Dec 1864 (Kendal Oct-Dec 10b: 574). In 1871 William and Isabella and their children lived at 19, Cross Street, Applethwaite. In 1881 Mary was a general domestic servant for Hannah Wright at Park Range, Applethwaite. In 1891 she was a domestic servant to Mary Richards at The Old England, Hotel Bowness. She married Gerard Docker Edmonson in Dec 1892 (Westmorland S 10b: 1176). In 1901 and 1911 Mary and Gerald, a joiner, were living at Biskey Gardens, Windermere.
Mary of 6, Biskey Howe Gardens, died on 20th Dec 1939 at Derby Cottage, Windermere (Westmorland S 10b: 1623). Probate of £307 5s 5d was granted to brother, George Scott (fish salesman, and James Scott, labourer.
Joseph was born in Windermere in 1868 (Kendal Apr-Jun 10b: 642). In 1871 William and Isabella and their children had moved to 19, Cross Street, Applethwaite. In 1881 Alice was a general domestic servant at the Elleray Hotel Windermere. In 1891 Joseph was with his parents at 19, Cross Street, Windermere. He was a bottler in a beer store.
Joseph married Mary Alice Rimmer on 12th Dec 1895 in Windermere. In 1901 Joseph, Mary and children, Mary, Donald and relatives, Ellen and Edwin Rimmer were living next door to his parents at 21, Cross Street, Windermere and he was a hoseman and aerated water bottler. In 1911 the address was 21 (again) Sunbeams, Windermere and additional children, William, Wilfred, Josephine and Ethel. They recorded 7 children all living, but I can only find 6. Boarding with them were Edwin and Thomas Rimmer.
Joseph of 5, Victoria Street, Windermere died on 4th Nov 1935 (Kendal 10b: 790). Probate of £418 17s 7d was granted to his wife and George Gatey, solicitor.
Mary was born in Mar 1889 in Windermere. In 1901 she lived at 21 Cross Street with her parents and brother and next door to her grandparents at No 19. In 1911 she was with them at no 19.
Donald was born on 27th Dec 1900 in Windermere (Kendal Jan-Mar 1901 10b: 745). In 1901 he lived at 21 Cross Street with his parents and sister and next door to her grandparents at No 19. In 1911 he was with his parents and siblings at 21 Sunbeams, Windermere and, at 10 years-old, was a grocer’s errand boy. He married Margaret Osliff in 1924 (Kendal Oct-Dec 10b: 1317). I can find no children. Donald of Central flat, 5A, College Road Windermere, died on 28 Jan 1986 aged 85 (Kendal 1: 512).
William was born in about 1904 in Windermere. In 1911 he was with his parents and siblings at 21 Sunbeams, Windermere.
Wilfred was born in 1905 in Windermere (Kendal Jul-Sep 10b: 785). In 1911 he was with his parents and siblings at 21 Sunbeams, Windermere.
Josephine was born in about 1906 in Windermere. In 1911 she was with her parents and siblings at 21 Sunbeams, Windermere.
Josephine was born in about 1907 in Windermere. In 1911 she was with her parents and siblings at 21 Sunbeams, Windermere.
William was born in Windermere in Jan 1871. In 1871 and 81 William and Isabella and their children lived at 19, Cross Street, Applethwaite. He cannot be found in 1891 and married Betsey Ann Walmsley in Sep 1895 in Barrow in Furness (8e: 1386). 1901 William was a hotel and pub manager of a pub, with Betsey, daughter, Elizabeth, mother-in-law and 2 servants at 140 Rowlinson Street, Barrow. William died, aged 40,in 1911 in Barrow (Jan-Mar 8e: 547).
Elizabeth was born in Barrow in Jun 1896. In 1901 they were living at 140 Rowlinson Stree, Barrow with her parents. In 1911 she was with her widowed grandmother, Isabella.
George was born in Windermere in Dec 1872 (Kendal 10b: 6454). In 1881 he was with his family at Cross Street, Windermere. In 1891 he was a fish dealer still living with his parents. George married Elizabeth Ann Park in Dec 1899 in Windermere (Kendal 10b: 1261). In 1901 they were living at Crescent Road, Windermere. In 1911 they were living at 19, Derby Terrace, Windermere; William was a fish and game dealer. They had no children at that time. George, still of Derby Terrace died in 27 Oct 1952, aged 79 (Westmorland south 1b: 560) aged 54. Probate of £4868 13s 7d was granted to John Robinson, solicitor’s clerk.
Robert was born in Windermere in Dec 1874 (Kendal 10b: 686). In 1881 he was with his family at Cross Street, Windermere. In 1891 he was a barman for his Uncle, Samuel Scott at Waterloo hotel, 14, Rawlinson St., Barrow in Furness. He was with his parents in 1901 at Cross St. and was a coalyard labourer. Robert died in 1907.
James was born in Windermere in 1878 (Kendal Jul-Sep 10b: 700). In 1881 and 1891 he was with his family at Cross Street, Windermere. He was with his parents in 1901 at Cross St. and was a general labourer. He was a coalyard labourer in 1911 living at Cross Street with his widowed mother. James died in Dec 1942 aged 64 (Westmorland South 10b: 742).